black magic defined

here we will learn from eachother what we beleive to be true about black magic.
I created this forum in the hope that both light sided and dark sided magic users can come together and share their beliefs about the said topic, as well as focus more on the darker side.

I once thought of black magic as being bad and evil, just like everyone else when i was younger. As i read through more books and websites to do with magic in general, i have come to learn that Black is not as black as it seems.

Black, it seems, was originated as a reference to the black land of egypt, othewise known as Nigromancy(black magic), wich was also changed to necro, and adopted a new meaning. The magic of egypt also included the famous book of the dead - perhaps another reason for Nigromancy's change of name.

hmm.... now thats been typed up - what was the point in this forum?

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Darkness, concealment, manipulation, working other energies to work for you, etc. Might be completely wrong.

i agree with all of these, but those other energies are not necessarily dark energies, therefore is it really dark magic in that sense?
that part aside (open for discussion of course), i see dark magic as working in the background of things and the same with every other element and every other situation - it can be used for 'good' or 'bad'.

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those other energies are not necessarily dark energies, therefore is it really dark magic in that sense?

Ah, but define dark...? LOL Do you mean negative energy? Because from my experience, this can be different from dark. I think of dark as in unknown, expanding, powerful...

I believe dark can be used for good. Many people don't. I call them fluffies and have hordes of shadow being waiting to pull them into the darkness...[/color]

i simply meant that manipulation of other energies is not really dark or negative to me... it just is :S

I suppose this depends upon the individual and the particular paradigm they follow. Magic itself, and the energy that is manipulated by it, is largely neutral in my opinion (although I could well be wrong as I am not the sharpest tool in the box).

Ultimately, darkness itself varies from person to person, and even varies within that person as his or her experience grows.

Myself, being strongly bonded to nature and not really having much ability with anything else spiritual, tend to focus on that aspect of it. I will draw a metaphor! In order to find the dark side of nature it is first necessary to look at the light side and define that. Those 'nice' aspects of nature exist which we can easily see and understand. The growth of plants, the opening of flowers, the trees growing leaves as summer comes. The bees come, take nectar from the flowers, spread pollen to others as they move from plant to plant, helping them spread their seeds while they pick up food for their collony. The grass grows as it feeds on sunlight and makes seeds for the furry cute critters to eat.

The dark side of nature would be those aspects which define the conflict of life. African wild dogs will run down, kill and eat wildebeast while they are still alive. Japanese giant hornets will enter a beehive and, if the bees fail to defend themselves, bite the head off every single bee living there and eat the young. Young eagles in the nest will kill and eat younger siblings in order to receive more food from its mother and father. But in each case, the creatures involved are behaving out of a desire for life, and are strengthening their own species as well as others. The African wild dogs will take the slow and the sick out of the herd, and give the fast and healthy a better chance of survival. The bees can defend themselves against the hornets, and the strongest and smartest collonies will spawn the most queens. The surviving eagle is the strongest, and will be the one which mates and passes on its genes to the next generation.

This might be dark, and if looked at superficially it could be considered destructive, but it is as much a part of nature as the nice bunny rabbits skipping across fields of daisies. It is that which relies upon its own power for its needs and is more 'wild' and passionate than the more peaceful, subdued, and 'reserved' light side.

In summary...



Light thoughts: Isn't he cute!!!!

Dark thoughts: I wonder if he has reached adulthood and eaten anyone yet?

my thoughts exactly but put down better than i ever could bravo tomato bravo