Jaska
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 | Subject: Personal ideas on Chaos  Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:38 am | |
| A discussion between me and nosllew on what chaos is... - Spoiler:
(01:02) - Jaska - Carame: i do still wonder if the inteligent part of me is the true me.... or if it another part of me that is both causer of chaos and rescuer, the divine planner that we all hold, a higher inteligence greater than our own, yet still part of our own mind
(01:03) - Jaska - Carame: ...... like a time share XD
(01:03) - Jaska - Carame: there are times where i plan things to great extent, complex ideas and the right knowlege of how to make it work. it is me, but it isnt.
(01:04) - Jaska - Carame: the ego of course (thats just a random guess, but it just remiinds me of that P
(01:04) - Jaska - Carame: * )
(01:04) Blessed Be: only you can truly find the answer to that but the advice i give is if this part is an instigator of chaos then its not that intelligent which means the intelligent part is the resuer not the chaotic part
(01:05) - Jaska - Carame: ah but dispite what people think, chaos can be as inteligent as nature itself! thats the trick of it, thats the fascade it likes to think. after all, chaos, when you allow yourself to be a part of it, completely, is not really that chaotic after all
(01:07) - Jaska - Carame: take an example - if a doctor was to say to a person, like me, can this other character of yours come out and speak to me now?
the answer would be yes, but if it was as mischeivous and chaotic as it appears, why would it wish to show itself?
(01:07) - Jaska - Carame: do you see where i am coming from?
(01:08) - Jaska - Carame: even chaos happens for a reason
(01:08) Blessed Be: chaos isnt intelligent it just is if you know what i mean as true chaos would see the end of the world for pure pleasure
(01:09) - Jaska - Carame: of course, but to get there, it would have to find its own way to reach it.
i would see the end of the world for pure pleasure. am i pure chaos?
(01:09) - Jaska - Carame: now that i think about that last question of miine, i am thinking maybe yes
(01:10) - Jaska - Carame: as wel also have complex designs in our mind, that work for a reason, yet because we do not understand it all completely, it is chaos in itself
(01:11) - Jaska - Carame: thats the thing. this 'chaos' does not want me destroyed or rendered useless. what would be the point? if i died of madness, then chaos exists no more
(01:11) - Jaska - Carame: thats why it takes me in and brings me out again
(01:11) Blessed Be: i dont beleive your chaotic i beleive your balanced in your own way
(01:12) - Jaska - Carame: but how chaotic is chaos?
if the mind is chaos, then i am chaos, and every human is chaos. humans do not understand the mind, we do not fully understand eachother, which is why people stimatize what they do not understand. which IS essentially chaos
(01:13) - Jaska - Carame: chaos is eternal, chaos is everywhere. everything is possible, as long as we go we go with it. if we all died, there is no more chaos in humans
(01:13) Blessed Be: a lack of understanding is not chaois
(01:13) Blessed Be: it is just something strange and different
(01:14) - Jaska - Carame: not the lack of understanding itself, but because there is a lack of understanding
(01:14) - Jaska - Carame: take a computer. to a typical girl, she wouldnt know what is what in a computer box. it is just a whole load of something that she does not know. that is chaos
(01:15) Blessed Be: thereby is the lack of understanding
(01:15) - Jaska - Carame: the computer is chaos
(01:15) - Jaska - Carame: to that girl
(01:15) - Jaska - Carame: but should everyone in the world understand what part is what and which number is for wich, there is no chaos
(01:15) - Jaska - Carame: not in that machine anyway
(01:16) Blessed Be: the chaos would be if she was told to open the box and examine the bits but she chooses to eat the parts instead beleiving injesting would give her the knoledge
(01:16) - Jaska - Carame: that is an effect of chaos, not the chaos itself
(01:17) - Jaska - Carame: the chaos would be simply - that she does not understand it. the effect of chaos is she eats it due to her lack of understanding
(01:17) Blessed Be: but what is chaos if not the random effect of something completely unrelated
(01:17) Blessed Be: e.g.
(01:18) Blessed Be: walking into a pub and stepping into a chrch
(01:18) Blessed Be: one door
(01:18) - Jaska - Carame: effect comes after the chaos, not during or before.
(01:18) Blessed Be: pub outside step through the door
(01:18) Blessed Be: and enter the church
(01:18) - Jaska - Carame: no matter what she does with it, she would have still gone through chaos just looking at it
(01:19) - Jaska - Carame: ....i dont get that
(01:19) Blessed Be: confusion not chaos
(01:19) - Jaska - Carame: confusion to me, is chaos
(01:19) - Jaska - Carame: not chaos itself but a part of chaos
(01:19) Blessed Be: then through individuality you see confusion as chaos
(01:20) - Jaska - Carame: Chaos: the girl was confuzed
effect: she eats the part, walks away, whatever
(01:20) Blessed Be: where i see the unpresidented random result of something logically simple to be chaotic
(01:20) - Jaska - Carame: the effect is random, not the chaos itself
read through and come up with your own opinions  | |
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Nos Llew
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| | Subject: Re: Personal ideas on Chaos Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:51 am | |
| that was a fun discussion | |
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Nos Llew
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| | Subject: Re: Personal ideas on Chaos Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:41 pm | |
| seems like no one else has commented so i will raise this topic back to life
to me we all begin in one big chaotic event (the big bang)which started off a chain which led to our existance, chaos to me is a way of making decisions and getting the result i want because i personally believe that one random event causes another and another to arrive at a rather logical outcome.
i look forward to hearing others opinions on chaos
magic related or not | |
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